Comments on: Theological Smackdown – is being wrong a sin?

By: queenstuss

queenstuss — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:57:02 +0000

I absolutely agree with you. There can only be one right and wrong in matters of truth. We have had a similar conversation in our house numerous times about whether Hillsong is essentially good because they bring people into church or mostly just bad because they have so much dodgy theology. I’m on the side of the latter and push away anything that I think has dodgy theology because we can’t both be right.
I don’t think that innocently believing a wrong doctrine is anything different to innocently believing its okay to cheat your employer. And I don’t think we should be remaining innocent, but always striving to live more godly lives, in either ideology or behaviour (though both are obviously linked).

By: simone r

simone r — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 07:35:00 +0000

both.

By: toph-online

toph-online — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:28:10 +0000

Simply I agree and I like what Dever has to say too.

I am a believer in infant baptism but at the end of my days when I meet my King and I am in deed wrong. Then I have sinned but this does not mean I won’t enter Heaven.

To be honest though I think that God will be more annoyed by how people interact over the baptism debate than their actual view. Mainly because I have seen people act in a way that is unloving, selfish, rude and thoughtless. Sometimes arrogance and stubbornness (different to standing firm on your belief) are revealed. I am included in the above.

By: Nathan

Nathan — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:03:07 +0000

@Leah, a little — but I think if we think people are sinning unwittingly we should still encourage them not to — we should be prepared to use scripture to correct and rebuke (and have the same done to us).

@Simone — Was that general or specific?

By: Leah

Leah — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:37:20 +0000

Oh Nathan, I wasn’t saying doing the wrong thing is irrelevant. I meant that, in determining whether a person is sinning when they ‘unwittingly’ do the wrong thing, it’s not the actual thing we should be determining is a sin or not, but the fact they’re in rejection of God. I dunno, did that make sense?

By: simone r

simone r — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:10:10 +0000

I agree to disagree when I feel like the argument is a waste of time. I’m not going to change your mind, you’re not going to change mine. We are going round in circles and I’m bored with it. But I still think you are wrong and on certain things, your wrong opinion will lead you to sin.

Happy to reopen the argument if I think I’ve got new evidence that might convince you (or if everything else is so dull that a boring, waste of time debate seems amusing).

By: Nathan

Nathan — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:44:52 +0000

I believe I address that point in the post with a reference to breakfast cereal. I did add that later so the cache may not have reset…

Subway is a subjective thing. When it comes to objective things there is an absolute. Those are the areas I’m talking about.

The acts of sin are not “irrelevant” how are we sanctified if we see doing the wrong thing as “irrelevant”. We are judged for rejecting God, or not rejecting God — but the specific times you reject God — or miss his standard (ie being wrong) — are still matters of concern. And they’re probably still matters for repentance.

By: Leah

Leah — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:32:55 +0000

There’s not a right and wrong on all issues. Agreeing to disagree is sometimes the best thing. I agreed to disagree with someone the other day on what the best Subway sandwich is.

As for is it wrong to be a sin? I guess that depends what you’re wrong about :P If you’re wrong about the ingredients of a cake, then no. If you’re wrong about your opinion on whether Christians can marry non-Christians, then yes.

As for sin itself, sin is a rejection of God — the actual acts we are doing are a bit irrelevant. So whether you have the intent to sin or not, you’re still rejecting God I would think. But I could be wrong :P