New strategy for the new atheism

The iMonk puts for­ward a lit­tle insight into how the goal­posts are mov­ing when it comes to dis­course with athe­ists. I tend to agree with his diag­no­sis of the problem.

Some great insights.

One of my let­ters this week stated that a 17 year old raised in an evan­gel­i­cal fam­ily was now an avid athe­ist, with many of the hijinks of evan­gel­i­cal­ism as evi­dence of manip­u­la­tion and con­trol. He couldn’t mean take off your shoes and spin your socks over your head while singing “Jesus mess me up?” Why would that bother anyone?”

You see, evan­gel­i­cals have made such out­ra­geous assump­tions and promises about hap­pi­ness, heal­ing, every­thing work­ing out, know­ing God, answered prayer, lov­ing one another and so on that prov­ing us to be liars isn’t even a real job. It’s just a mat­ter of tun­ing in to an increas­ing num­ber of voices who say “It’s OK to not believe. Give your­self a break. Stop tor­ment­ing your­self try­ing to believe. Stop prop­ping up your belief with more and more com­plex argu­ments. Just let go of God.”

Keller is still great. C.S.Lewis is still help­ful. [William Lane] Craig is still impres­sive. But I’m not sure their argu­ments are on the right chan­nel. Vast num­bers of peo­ple aren’t ask­ing for phi­los­o­phy. They are ask­ing what will let them live a life uncom­pli­cated by lies, manip­u­la­tion and con­stant calls to pre­fer igno­rance to what seems obvious.

What we’ve said and writ­ten is fine. What we’ve lived in our homes, pri­vate lives, churches, work­places and friend­ships has spo­ken louder.

We are the ones who appear to not believe in the God we say is real. We are the ones who seem to be forc­ing our­selves to believe with big­ger shows, big­ger celebri­ties and big­ger meth­ods of manipulation.”

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    The prob­lem with this analy­sis is, who is the we?


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    Nathan

    I think it’s a fair charge to level at the church gen­er­ally rather than spe­cific individuals.

    I get the impres­sion that he’s sug­gest­ing the solu­tion is not to water down the gospel but to actu­ally live it. It’s noth­ing new or pro­found — but it’s a point that needs mak­ing over and over again. We can fight the intel­lec­tual fight all we like — but it’s not gen­er­ally an intel­lec­tual argu­ment that wins con­verts to athe­ism. It’s either the attrac­tive lifestyle that not believ­ing in God presents or the dis­con­nect between what Chris­tians say and what they do.

    The Friendly Athe­ist has linked to the iMonk story and basi­cally sug­gested that appeal­ing to believ­ers on the basis of lifestyle is the way to decon­vert them.


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