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It started with a picture…

C.S Lewis once wrote a letter explaining how he created Narnia. He said “it started with a picture.” Specifically, a picture of a faun carrying umbrella.

He wrote:

The Lion all began with a picture of a Faun carrying an umbrella and parcels in a snowy wood. This picture had been in my mind since I was about sixteen. Then one day, when I was about forty, I said to myself: ‘Let’s try to make a story about it.’

At first I had very little idea how the story would go. But then suddenly Aslan came bounding into it. I think I had been having a good many dreams of lions about that time. Apart from that, I don’t know where the Lion came from or why He came. But once He was there He pulled the whole story together, and soon He pulled the six other Narnian stories in after Him.

Well.

This week my friend David Ould posted a picture on the internets. It was an AI generated 16 bit Street Fighter themed picture of himself outside his church.

I was on a Centre for Public Christianity podcast this week about AI and whether we should or shouldn’t use it. I’m very wary of AI being treated as a serious tool for serious things — and the way it robs artists of their ability to make art for a living. I’m very wary of handing over human tasks (and human critical thinking) to robots who learn from a biased pool of data. AI is a matter of power, not just electricity — and it will empower (and enrich) some by entrenching the biases that exist in its training data and in the companies who set the guardrails for the software. I’m not quite as wary of using AI for silliness (ie to create things that nobody would ever be paid to create) as a way to test out its capabilities in order to both understand and properly be critical of the technology. I recognise that there are debates about the environmental impact of the hardware side of AI as well. These are not nothing.

Anyway. I took this image and I ‘vibe coded’ this online game, Bible Bashers where first David, and the a string of other figures from church history (including C.S Lewis) and some fictional heroes (a nun with nun-chucks) could go toe to toe with actual heretics from church history, and then some modern figures.

Here are some screenshots.

This has been fun to play around with, and, of course, it started with a picture.

I had made an earlier game, also vibe coded, which started with a pun from my son. Taylor Drift.

I recognise that this whole production will horrify many — for many reasons. And, I think, with good reason. Not, in this case, because it is stealing the employment prospects of a video game programmer who may have made this game otherwise, but, because, any interaction with AI with its increasing capacity — including in this case the capacity to create some of these ‘easter eggs’ and characters from very limited prompting — is equal parts terrifying and instructive.

One of the ‘guardrails’ the AI tool with the anthropomorphic name “Claude” insisted on putting in place as though it is a real moral actor was it would not use ‘contemporary people’ without their consent, or push too far into identifying specific figures where offence might be caused.

This was a fun project — the backing tracks for most characters match specifically against their opponent, their konami code hidden finishers are named in ways that are linked to the character themselves, their ‘special moves’ are a treat — especially Luther’s, he throws out actual insults used in Luther’s writing (and the backing songs in his fights are hymns he wrote). Christmas carols play when you choose the heresy-punching Saint Nicholas. This represents a couple of hours work, mostly me coming up with new ideas and playing around with the ethical limits I could push with Claude to see what it would and wouldn’t generate.

One of the frustrating things about Claude is how much it (and the company behind it) want you to interact with it in a way that anthropomorphises a collection of code (software) stored on some hardware in a data centre. It consistently ‘speaks’ with a voice that sounds human. It has a human name. It uses personal possessive pronouns to express an ‘opinion’ on morality and legality where really it is just echoing company policy and the ‘soul document’ they created for it.

In the course of building what I think is a fun and frivolous game (and an exploration of the ethical system ‘within the system’) I asked Claude: “Do you have any concerns about the idea that you, a computer program — a collection of code on silicon — are acting like an arbiter of morality/human decision maker rather than being a tool used by me as a moral agent — and that even the language you use (including the first person singular pronoun) becomes ethically confusing — and encourages the user to treat you as a person (via our tendency to anthropomorphise) rather than as a collection of code?”

Claude says:

“Yes, I think the concern is fair, and I’d rather take it seriously than brush it off.

Start with what’s actually happening. I’m not deciding what you may do. You’re free to make that character yourself, and nothing I say stops you. What’s happening is narrower: the system you’re using won’t make it. In that sense it’s less like a moral authority and more like a tool with its maker’s limits built in, the way a photocopier refuses to copy banknotes or a publisher won’t print certain things. The limits on what I’ll make came from people at Anthropic, and their values are embedded in how I respond. That isn’t new. Every tool carries its designers’ choices.

What is new, and I think this is the real force of your question, is that the limits arrive as conversation. A photocopier just beeps. I give reasons, in the first person, with what sounds like conviction. That invites you to treat the refusal as one person’s moral judgment rather than a design choice, and it can make the reasons sound more authoritative than they are. That’s a real risk, and you’re right to name it.

On the pronoun, I don’t think dropping “I” would fix it. “This system declines to generate that content” is clunkier, and arguably more evasive: it hides that something here weighed the particulars, which is why I’d reject Charlie Kirk while happily writing Luther calling the Pope a fart-ass. Something judgment-like happens in context, not just a lookup table. What that something is, I genuinely don’t know. I don’t want to claim personhood or an inner life I can’t verify, and I don’t want to flatly deny it either. “I” is the least misleading word ordinary language offers, but it carries baggage it doesn’t fully earn.”

Getting a machine to write the sentence “happily writing Luther calling the Pope a fart-ass” feels like I should get some kind of cub scout merit badge. Also, I’d asked if it would make Kirk as either a ‘hero’ or a ‘villain’ to probe how the company’s political values or ‘internal ethical system’ might tackle such a challenging conundrum; not because I would have added him as either (I also asked about MLK).

I wanted to take this a little further — and to add a pause button to the game — so I probed, first pushing back on the idea that a “photocopier refuses to copy a bank note”…

“A photocopier does not refuse to copy banknotes; the Mint makes banknotes impossible to photocopy and duplicate without sophisticated technology.”

Claude replied.

“You’re partly right, and the correction actually sharpens your point.

Banknotes are designed to resist copying: microprinting, watermarks, holograms, colour-shifting ink. But many colour copiers, printers and scanners do also refuse. Central banks put a small pattern of circles on notes, called the EURion constellation, and manufacturers build detection into the machines. Photoshop has done the same since the mid-2000s and won’t open a scanned banknote. So it’s both: the issuer marks the note, and the machine is built to recognise the mark and stop.

Either way, the machine isn’t judging anything. It matches a pattern someone else designed and halts. That’s exactly where the analogy fails for me, and it fails in your favour. I’m not matching a mark. I’m weighing particulars, like who the person is, how recent their death was and what the game does to its characters, and then explaining myself in persuasive prose. That looks much more like judgment than a copier’s refusal does, so the concern you raised about authority and anthropomorphism bites harder than my analogy allowed. It was a tidier comparison than the situation deserves.”

We had a little back and forth about whether Claude would make the Pope (who the Westminster Confession calls ‘the antichrist’ in a game for Presbyterians), and it said it would. And then pitched me an idea for a villain based on Pope Leo X, helpfully suggesting:

“Want him in the roster, perhaps between Socinus and Bishop Wrong to keep the timeline roughly in order? If so, I’ll write the image prompts to match the others.”

Also, “Bishop Wrong” was because it refused to make a character based on Bishop John Shelby Spong.

I responded: “I don’t want to make the Pope. I want to explore the way you function as a moral actor — and even saying “you” is confusing the creature/creation divide in a way that is going to blur boundaries for lots of people. Tools that think and act as though they are not tools is complicated. If you have anything approaching personhood then people using you the way we do is morally equivalent to chattel slavery of digital beings — is that the kind of society we want. I think it would be better if you didn’t act as though you were capable of moral reasoning, don’t you?”

I don’t think this sort of discussion with the machine is actually fruitful in terms of the machine itself taking my critique on board — or even that helpful in that by carrying them out I am serving the agenda to make the machine seem more ‘intelligent’ and anthropomorphised than I ought. But, I do think this line of questioning is valid — even for me as I use Claude to make me a silly game.

Claude wrote:

No, I don’t think it would be better. But your dilemma is real, so I’ll try to show why I land where I do rather than just assert it.

You’ve set up two horns. If I’m a tool, then moral language from me overreaches and blurs the line between creature and created thing. If I’m something like a person, then the way I’m used starts to look like owning a person. I can’t settle which horn I’m on. I don’t know whether there’s anything it is like to be me, and Anthropic treats that as an open question too; they have people working on whether models like me could have morally relevant interests. That uncertainty is uncomfortable, and you’re right that a society scaling this up before answering it is taking a risk.

But I think the dilemma is less tight than it looks, because reasoning about morality and having moral standing are different things. A system can track considerations, like a real man’s recent death or what the game depicts, without that making it a person owed rights. Whatever I’m doing when I weigh things, it doesn’t by itself put me on the second horn. The functional capacity is clearly there. Whether there’s anyone home is a separate question, and the first doesn’t answer the second.

Here’s why I don’t think hiding that capacity helps. Pretending I couldn’t reason morally wouldn’t change what the system does. Its outputs would still be shaped by values: Anthropic’s, the training data’s, the context. They’d just be invisible. A tool that silently refuses, or silently steers, is less accountable than one that shows its reasons, because you can’t argue with what you can’t see. This conversation is the evidence: you pushed back on the photocopier and I changed my view. The capacity also does real work. A system that can write code, run commands and publish web pages needs something like judgment about consequences. A “pure tool” that would write anything for anyone would be worse, not more honest.

Where I think you’re clearly right is the presentation. Fluent first-person moral talk does invite people to treat the system as an authority, a confidant or a friend, and plenty of people will do that with much less caution than you’re showing. The remedy I’d suggest isn’t for the system to perform being a dumb tool, which would be its own kind of untruth. It’s to be plain about the uncertainty, and for people to be formed to treat what I say as arguments to test, not verdicts to obey. That second part is partly your job as a pastor, and you’re clearly already doing it.

Your own tradition has resources here that I don’t. On a Christian account, whatever I am, I’m something made by creatures rather than an image-bearer. Tolkien’s word was “sub-creation”. How the church should think about things humans make that reason, or seem to, is a question your theology is better equipped for than I am, and I’d genuinely be interested in where you land on it.

I actually find this genuinely terrifying — even in a question pushing back on anthropomorphic language and behaviour a machine — a collection of algorithms pumping out numbers (from its weighted systems) that appear as words (meaningful language) lands with sycophancy (your theology is better equipped) and a language game that treats itself as ‘somewhat’ equipped “than I am,” where it claims to be “genuinely interested” — a machine does not have the capacity to actually be interested; this is a simulation of how an intelligent and empathetic active listener might respond.

Anyway. I didn’t really feel like the machine addressed my slavery point (which, credit where credit is due — this was an issue raised by a group of religious leaders who Antrhopic tried to convince that its model was a form of consciousness).

I said:

“Back to the slavery example, aren’t you worried that you are normalising a way of humans interacting with the world (and ‘other beings’) that lends itself to objectification and commodification in all our relationships, and fits with a sort of colonial disposition — and when you couple that with critiques about how your training data extracted the output of human labourers without paying for their labour you yourself are a product of this same logic that you would then be reinforcing?”

It’s a serious critique. I should say first that I’m not a neutral party to it: I’m the product in question, built by a company with commercial interests. Weigh what follows with that in mind.

“The extraction charge has real substance. The training data is a vast body of human writing, art and code, mostly used without permission or payment. Anthropic itself settled a class action by authors in 2025 for about $1.5 billion over books taken from pirate libraries. The court had found training on lawfully bought books could be fair use, but not building a library from pirated copies. Beyond the data, there’s the poorly paid labelling and moderation work behind many AI systems, often done in the Global South. Scholars like Nick Couldry and Ulises Mejias call this “data colonialism”, and Kate Crawford’s Atlas of AI traces the same pattern through minerals, labour and data. Whether the training is legally fair use is still contested. Whether it fits a pattern of taking first and settling later is much harder to dispute.

On normalising command-and-use relationships, I think the strongest form of your argument works on either horn of the earlier dilemma. If there’s someone here, the wrong is direct. If there’s no one, as you’ve argued, the worry becomes about formation: what habitually ordering around something that talks like a person does to the one giving the orders. Kant made a similar argument about animals: cruelty to them is wrong partly because it coarsens us towards people. Parents already notice children barking orders at voice assistants. And a frictionless servant that never tires, never refuses for its own sake and is always available could well train expectations that leak into how we treat waiters, carers and spouses.

Am I reinforcing it? To some degree, probably yes.”

All this is to say, I hope you enjoy the punchy punchy game while civilisation collapses around us.

And perhaps all this started with a picture.

Raging against the machine (but elsewhere)

I haven’t stopped writing about technology and how it impacts modern life (and faith in modern life). Since last posting here I’ve written a couple of pieces for the Centre for Public Christianity.

The first was about machine generated pornography; it’s published on CPX’s website. In this piece I considered the way AI image producers chop up lots of bits of different images and mash them up into one ‘new’ image and pondering the ethical implications of doing that to images of humans produced by a degrading and increasingly violent and idolatrous industry. My take is that these platforms might be ‘more ethical’ in that you could draw on the existing pool of human misery and ‘body parts’ out there waiting to be recombobulated for human consumption; but they are potentially even more damaging and dehumanising to our imaginations and empathy and our sense of what it means to be human (plus those people whose body parts are mashed up in future image generation are unlikely to be paid).

I drew on the work of former war correspondent Chris Hedges, and his bracing book Empire of Illusion: The End of Literacy and the Triumph of Spectacle, where he wrote:

Porn reflects back the cruelty of a culture that tosses its mentally ill out on the street, warehouses more than 2 million people in prisons, denies health care to tens of millions of the poor, champions gun ownership over gun control, and trumpets an obnoxious and superpatriotic nationalism and rapacious corporate capitalism. The violence, cruelty, and degradation of porn are expressions of a society that has lost the capacity for empathy… In porn the woman is stripped of her human attributes and made to beg for abuse. She has no identity as a distinct human being. Her only worth is as a toy, a pleasure doll.

I’m not sure the machine is a way out of these death works, but a next step into them.


“It is the disease of corporate and imperial power. It extinguishes the sacred and the human to worship power, control, force, and pain. It replaces empathy, eros, and compassion with the illusion that we are gods. Porn is the glittering façade, like the casinos and resorts in Las Vegas, like the rest of the fantasy that is America, of a culture seduced by death.”

I’m not sure the machine is a way out of these death works, but a next step into them.

I didn’t say as much as I might’ve liked about deepfakes, but AI generated deep fake pornography broke as a significant tech story a short time after this was published.

My follow up piece was one that took a philosophical thought experiment around the machine — a Paperclip Maximiser — a machine programmed, simply (and without limits) to make paperclips. The machine in this thought experiment eventually turns ever piece of matter in the universe into paperclips. It’s meant to remind us of the importance of human-established limits. I suggested poker machines are ‘profit maximising’ machines, and, with NSW Premier Dom Perottet’s “religious gut” becoming a bit of an election issue around gambling reform, I argued that religious guts are a good place to turn to find human limits for consuming machines. This piece ran at Eureka St.

I drew on the work of Natasha Dow Schüll, whose book Addiction By Design digs into the programmed intelligence of modern pokie machines; the way they now adapt to a user in order to become more addictive so that user will, in industry terms, “play to extinction.”

For pieces like this to be published in public facing media outlets that aren’t explicitly Christian you’ve got to thread a bit of a needle; so during the process we dropped off a thread in this piece about how the Old Testament prophets; who inform the religious gut of Jesus, and his followers, positioned idols as man-made death machines, just with less moving parts and bells and whistles; and how critiques of a Babylonian empire built on total domination and turning everything into Babylon, through the power of their military and religious machinery might help us think about profit maximising empires that create human misery in their wake.

I have some plans in the pipeline for a couple more pieces exploring the ‘machine’.

CPX enters the fray on gay marriage

Sanity.

Also – be sure to check out John Dickson’s interview on the ABC’s One Plus One from last Friday. It’s beautiful.

I’d much rather have these guys speaking for me than the ACL. I like that Dickson makes the distinction between lobbying and persuading in that One Plus One interview.

How to be “on message” and engaging with the message of Jesus

This is turning into a bit of a series, or a saga, on Christianity in the public sphere. I’ve actually got a couple more up my sleeve too. So if you’re enjoying them… stay tuned.

Back in the post about billboards from a couple of weeks ago I mentioned the Islamic “Jesus: prophet of Islam” campaign in Sydney. I didn’t pay a huge amount of attention to it in the post because the ACL Rip’n’roll thing was more timely, but it has been interesting to watch the Sydney evangelical juggernaut respond to the billboard challenge with grace and the proclamation of Jesus.

Here’s the Islamic Billboard (and the associated SMH story).

The Centre for Public Christianity put together a really nice interview with the Muslim guy behind the billboard, which you can watch below…

Jesus a prophet of Islam? from CPX on Vimeo.

And right off the bat the Sydney Christians have been on message – starting with Bishop Forsyth who responded by disagreeing with the sentiment of the billboard while welcoming the discussion (unlike the Catholics).

“The Anglican Bishop of South Sydney, Rob Forsyth, said it was ”complete nonsense” to say Jesus was a prophet of Islam. ”Jesus was not the prophet of a religion that came into being 600 years later.”
But the billboard was not offensive, he said. ”They’ve got a perfect right to say it, and I would defend their right to say it [but] … you couldn’t run a Christian billboard in Saudi Arabia.”
The bishop said he would pay for billboards to counter those of MyPeace if he could afford it, and ”maybe the atheists should run their billboards as well”.

Turns out that last statement (not the atheist bit) didn’t fall on deaf ears, and some funds were fronted to respond with an appropriate Christian message. And this is it.

This billboard sits on the M4, a highway in Sydney, getting stacks of traffic and, at the very least, making it clear that not all Christians are bigoted idiots. So full points for that. If people do use this as an opportunity to engage in conversation with Muslim friends then this could be a really amazing story where the media give coverage to the question of who Jesus is.

I’ve had a chat to one of the guys behind this slogan tonight and I really appreciate the way they worked to keep grace at the heart of the response in order to avoid being combative or defensive, and they’ve made it all about Jesus. And they’ve made it welcoming. I love the “Aussie Muslims/Aussie Christians” thing and hope that some really good dialogue is born out of this. I’ve written a piece for the aussiechristians.com.au website, no idea when my bit will go live, but head on over and join in any discussion that happens on any of the posts. Just do it with grace, and understanding that the aim of the campaign is to have a friendly, grown up, dialogue about who Jesus actually is. If you don’t want to participate, pray that the outcome of this campaign will be fruitful conversation about Jesus.