Warming to the debate

It’s probably time I addressed Amy’s second point.

2. Global pollution and/or global warming are going to have the strongest effect not on the ‘Western’ world but the poorest nations and peoples. I think we have not only an ethical but a moral duty to ensure that this planet can support everyone on it.

I completely agree with the second sentence. We do (and particularly Christians do) have a responsibility to look after those in need.

Spiderman’s uncle summed it up best: “With great power comes great responsibility”.

If climate change is going to cause issues (and increased unpredictability in terms of weather events, changing rain patterns etc do have markedly enhanced effects on these villages) then we need to be helping people in areas at risk develop resilience to these events.

While I don’t like the Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme (CPRS) because I think it’s economically, politically and scientifically stupid – I’d be less opposed if the money was being spent on mitigating climate change globally.

Personally, I don’t think climate change or pollution has a massive bearing on the debate – there are other issues I believe need solving first. I think we should be looking at how the benefits of technology and research developed in the first world trickles down to the third, particularly medicine, and agronomy.

I also really like the idea of microfinancing as a way for individuals to directly help disadvantaged individuals. Kiva seems like a good example.

So, not to harp on the egg thing, here’s an equation.

If I buy 12 dozen cartons of eggs a year at $2.60 each, rather than paying $7 for free range, I save $52.80 – that’s $52.80 I can lend to these entrepreneurs – who, if successful, will pay me back so I can lend it again.

The loans are made in $25 chunks.

Just remember though – if participating in this scheme – that the following warning applies:

By participating in the Program or otherwise using this Website, you hereby acknowledge and agree that (a) Kiva makes no representation, warranty, covenant or guarantee that any funds you lend to a Borrower via the Website will be repaid and (b) loans made via the Website (each, a “Loan”) bear a high risk of non-repayment.


Amy says:

But again I point out – you could buy the free range eggs and give up 2 cds a year and do the same thing.

Nathan says:

Why not give up CDs, keep buying battery eggs and do the same thing twice?

Nathan says:

Also – the point I meant to make, but didn’t, was that for Christians there are more important priorities than rising sea levels. I’m not arguing that we should ignore the material needs of the poor, but everybody wants to feed the poor, more urgent for us is making sure these at risk countries have access to the Bible – and the ability to hear the gospel.

Which is why I’d also add supporting missionaries to the list of things I care about more than battery hens.

Amy says:

Because I give regularly to various organisations who look after the people, and so I feel that in my shopping I can give a little back to another cause.

That’s me. They are all causes I believe in so I spread my money around. If you don’t support a cause then don’t support it, simple as that.

There is an author called Peter Singer who I think you would find quite interesting, and challenging.

Nathan says:

You should search my blog for my thoughts on Peter Singer.

Nathan says:

Actually, not a lot comes up. Just one post. I hate Peter Singer. He’s on my Neiymeyer List. Along with Richard Dawkins.

Nathan says:

I can’t stress enough how much I can’t stand him. Well I can. When I dig up the emails where I talked about him with Ben and Co.

queenstuss says:

But rising sea levels would mean coastal communities being displaced. Doesn’t that matter?

Nathan says:

Not really. Serves us all right I think.

Just makes people who bought property inland look like visionaries.

queenstuss says:

and makes people who live on island nations look like fools?